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Posted Yesterday, 08:06 PM

U.S. Product Recalls Reach Highest Quarterly Total in Past Five Years

 

https://www.qualitya...ast-five-years/

 

And we were told GFSI would change the world!!!!!!!!!


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Posted Yesterday, 08:33 PM

First, the majority of recalls are done on purpose, much like how planes fall out of the sky, etc - most are planned, part of an agenda, etc.

 

As far as the GFSI is concerned, it severed its purpose for the people that were the puppet masters and I predict is will fall within the next 3-5 years.

 

I suspect its schemes such as SQF, BRC, IFS, Global Gap, etc etc will also go bye bye and the good food companies of the world, the ones that actually care about their customers will move on with well thought out and robust food safety management and systems without the schemes that were for the most part driven by buyers working for companies that were part of the global K-Mafia (aka deep state, etc.)


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Posted Today, 04:37 PM

The only thing missing from the article is who discovered the issues causing increased recalls:  the FDA or the manufacturers themselves.  If recalls are up but are mostly manufacturer driven, then it makes the case that GFSI is working and that manufacturers are catching things they could've otherwise missed (granted, a perfect GFSI facility makes food correctly the first time).

 

I also can't help but feel the FDA has dropped the ball in a few of the recalls.  Looking specifically at cinnamon recently, the FDA has no clearly defined limit and decided to defer to the newest established reports that caught the makers unaware.  They believed they were operating within an industry accepted range and the FDA came over the top to force a recall where a recall wouldn't previously have been triggered.  We need clear guidance on those types of issues, not decisions made on a whim.



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Posted Today, 05:27 PM

If nothing else, it has helped up awareness and knowledge in the industry as a whole. I left the auto industry and moved into food manufacturing in the late 00's, and without a GFSI scheme to help them organize their FSP I don't think it would have been nearly as successful as it was (the FSP, not the company they got sold to BigSugar). I've used the knowledge taken from that position in several non-GFSI food safety compliance roles since.

Do I think the knowledge and structure could have been disseminated without GFSI schemes and certifications? Yes, probably. Making it a customer pushed requirement undoubtedly raised the bar for everyone though.

 

That's not to say I think the GFSI schemes are perfect by any means..



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Posted Today, 05:56 PM

https://www.foodsafe...finds-listeria/

 

9.98 million pounds of RTE meat.

Almost 4 months of production.

Recalled after FSIS testing.



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Posted Today, 07:51 PM

https://www.foodsafe...finds-listeria/

 

9.98 million pounds of RTE meat.

Almost 4 months of production.

Recalled after FSIS testing.

I hafta think that someone was engaging in post-lethality cooking of the books on this one...



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Posted Today, 07:58 PM

https://www.foodsafe...finds-listeria/

 

9.98 million pounds of RTE meat.

Almost 4 months of production.

Recalled after FSIS testing.

 

It seems strange that they recalled several months of production after one sampling failure.  

 

I wouldn't count it as evidence that GFSI is a charade though.  Do we expect 100% perfection, and anything less is abject failure?





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