Primus 18.01.01 - Food Fraud Vulnerability Assessment

Hello, 

Any suggestions on how to create a food fraud vulnerability assessment (FFVA) for a produce distribution facility? 

Thanks!

Hello, 

https://www.foodsafe...rability-tool/ 

This is from Food Safety Magazine, it's an article about a tool that helps you develop your food fraud vulnerability assessment. 

Hope this helps,

-Joseph

Hello, 

 

https://www.foodsafe...rability-tool/ 

 

This is from Food Safety Magazine, it's an article about a tool that helps you develop your food fraud vulnerability assessment. 

 

Hope this helps,

-Joseph

The link seems to be obsolete. Together presumably with all the multitude of other site links in existence :crybaby:

"Inconvenience" is a major understatement.

Hello again,

@Charles.C The link doesn't seem to go anywhere, you are right. I would edit my post but I'm unsure how to exactly to do so.

Search up on google "Food Fraud Vulnerability Assessment" beyond the training courses that you don't really need is free tools that you can utilize to develop your Food Fraud. 

Hope this helps!

Kindest Regards,

-Joseph

Thanks, guys. I have been to that link, looked at the SSAFE tool. I am just not sure it makes sense for us. We handle hundreds of varieties of produce, and I don't think it makes sense for us to assess every item. It all comes in from vendors who have had their own safety audits. We receive the produce, and immediately turn it around and ship it. There has to be a better way.

Hello again,

 

@Charles.C The link doesn't seem to go anywhere, you are right. I would edit my post but I'm unsure how to exactly to do so.

 

Search up on google "Food Fraud Vulnerability Assessment" beyond the training courses that you don't really need is free tools that you can utilize to develop your Food Fraud. 

 

Hope this helps!

 

Kindest Regards,

-Joseph

No problem. Thks for the input. In fact it was useful to find out that a ton of IT links have just been rendered unusable. :smile:

@nickj - there are a variety of examples of  non-ssafe VA's on this forum (BRC, SQF, fssc22000, IFS) but i don't know what specific requirements Primus have stated (if any). Perhaps you could post (or link) the relevant segment of text ?

Regarding the "multitude of items", probably means that a "grouping" will be necessary. Easy to say ...........

Ha. Yep.

Hi Nick,

I'm struggling with this at our produce company. While fraud is huge with other products (olive oil, honey etc), produce is subject to USDA grading requirements. I've seen fraud defined as economically-motivated criminal activity. I don't see the connection with produce because nothing is added to it. It meets US grades or it doesn't. We accept it or reject it. It's either a round tomato or it isn't. Am I missing something? 

Mislabeling could mean a grower putting it in another box that doesn't correlate with his farm, but that's a traceability issue. The Produce Safety Rule and FSVP requirements should take care of that - and supplier control is our Preventive Control.

I'm doing the USDA Harmonized GAPS+ audit this year after years of Primus, and fraud assessment is a requirement. Probably because they recently received GFSI status.

Cindy

Cindy,

I am in the same situation with our upcoming PrimusGFS audit for our Fresh-Cut processing plant.  We also warehouse and distribute hundreds of commodities.  Agree that it makes sense in other segments of the industry but beyond criminal activity, I am not sure how this applies to us???  Did you ever find a good answer?

Thanks in advance,

Adam

Cindy,

 

I am in the same situation with our upcoming PrimusGFS audit for our Fresh-Cut processing plant.  We also warehouse and distribute hundreds of commodities.  Agree that it makes sense in other segments of the industry but beyond criminal activity, I am not sure how this applies to us???  Did you ever find a good answer?

 

Thanks in advance,

Adam

We just finished our audit and scored perfectly on this question. We kept it VERY simple. We developed an assessment system where we score each vendor (and the products they carry) based on their likelihood of fraud. We only use approved vendors, and if we think there is a risk of fraud, we eliminate the vendor (which is our protection plan). I have attached a screenshot of what our assessment looks like. 

We just finished our audit and scored perfectly on this question. We kept it VERY simple. We developed an assessment system where we score each vendor (and the products they carry) based on their likelihood of fraud. We only use approved vendors, and if we think there is a risk of fraud, we eliminate the vendor (which is our protection plan). I have attached a screenshot of what our assessment looks like. 

Hi Nick,

I think you were fortunate in that yr auditor probably lacked knowledge of food fraud.

The form is borrowed from early approaches to food fraud vulnerability assessments.

Previously substantially criticized..

On the other hand, a lot of material in this area is, IMO, a waste of space from a safety POV so perhaps yr auditor possessed a similar viewpoint.

PS - not my area but i noticed this food fraud summary -

Food Fraud, Fruit and Vegetables.pdf   136.66KB   462 downloads

PPS - FWIW "fresh produce" seems to so far be considered relatively insignificant this arena based on, afai could see, lack of linkages in the recent, voluminous book on food authenticity/Eurofins

Hi Nick, 

I'm in the same situation with the food fraud vulnerability assessment. We are just a grower and pack our own produce. When you used the template you attached did you use that for your pest control company, water testing lab, etc also? I have no ingredients  except for suppliers of pest control, packaging, etc. 

Thanks

Katie 

Hi Katie! I am in the same boat! We grow and pack our own produce. Just curious if you included your water testing lab/ pest control company in your assessment.

Kind regards,

Claudia

Hi Nick, 

I'm in the same situation with the food fraud vulnerability assessment. We are just a grower and pack our own produce. When you used the template you attached did you use that for your pest control company, water testing lab, etc also? I have no ingredients  except for suppliers of pest control, packaging, etc. 

Thanks

Katie 

Our audit is scheduled this week. I am concerned about our FFVA as well. Can anyone share theirs? I followed the above shared assessment. We're a handler of only potatoes. 

Our audit is scheduled this week. I am concerned about our FFVA as well. Can anyone share theirs? I followed the above shared assessment. We're a handler of only potatoes. 

I'm sort of surprised that  "potatoes" even  has a VA. :smile:

Species substitution ?

PS - post 10's form was recently reported as well-received in a SQF thread here despite, IMO, having major limitations.

Perhaps auditors have currently lost interest in this topic (no major disasters recently ?)  as compared to other FS areas.

I'm sort of surprised that  "potatoes" even  has a VA. :smile:

 

Species substitution ?

I am too. I'm not sure if there's even a substitution. We're a handler. We are contracted to remove dirt and debris from incoming harvest field trucks and then the product is shipped out to the processor who contracted the farmers to grow for them. They then take the potatoes and package microwave steamer containers. So do I form the assessment based on the processor? They could mislabel the product... sell as organic when potatoes are not. Sell excess unreported product. All extremely unlikely. ....I'm not sure. Since a potato is a whole product, you can't add ingredients to. 

I am too. I'm not sure if there's even a substitution. We're a handler. We are contracted to remove dirt and debris from incoming harvest field trucks and then the product is shipped out to the processor who contracted the farmers to grow for them. They then take the potatoes and package microwave steamer containers. So do I form the assessment based on the processor? They could mislabel the product... sell as organic when potatoes are not. Sell excess unreported product. All extremely unlikely. ....I'm not sure. Since a potato is a whole product, you can't add ingredients to. 

Hi WP,

TBH, I had assumed that "handler" in post 14 meant/included processor, Not sure how Primus scope differentiates Pre/Postgate stages ?  (BRC/SQF differ from each other in this aspect for a finished product "processor").

So what is the Fraudulent History of the Potato ? Zero ?

The Primus reference is 1.08.01 (v3) and the language they use in their interpretation guidelines is as follows:

We had our audit back in May, we are a potato farm that grows, harvests, packs and ships whole potatoes. 

We completed the assessment : https://www.pwc.com/...assessment.html, printed that and created an SOP for the assessment. We received full points for the question.

We had our audit back in May, we are a potato farm that grows, harvests, packs and ships whole potatoes. 

 

We completed the assessment : https://www.pwc.com/...assessment.html, printed that and created an SOP for the assessment. We received full points for the question.

Thks input.

Indeed, most Audit bodies seem happy with this "system".

Unfortunately it tends to be noticeably  "heavy" on effort required (eg 40+ questions) compared to some other techniques unless a condensed version is employed.

I presume you still needed access to a food fraud database, which one did you use ?

Hey nickjshelton, 
 
I used to work for a produce distribution facility and passed SQF v. 8 with this Food Fraud Vulnerability Assessment.  Auditor said he was surprised and it was one of the better ones he's seen.  
 
I've removed logos but attached for fruit, we did the same format for veggies! Hope it helps!
 
Kasey

Hey nickjshelton, 
 
I used to work for a produce distribution facility and passed SQF v. 8 with this Food Fraud Vulnerability Assessment.  Auditor said he was surprised and it was one of the better ones he's seen.  
 
I've removed logos but attached for fruit, we did the same format for veggies! Hope it helps!
 
Kasey

Hi kasey,

Thks input.

The risk seems independent of Supply chain Length. Remarkable. :smile:

I actually wonder if GFSI auditors reject any presentations ?