Advice on Outsourcing the Internal Audit Program
I'm afraid my budget doesn't allow me to travel that far... otherwise i would be delighted
Vacation to the states?
As for your point Bill, I have, in the past, scraped my ass through BRC audits with the most pathetic box ticking exerceises in internal auditing. I'm talking one page with "everything fine" and a signature. It's one of those "keeping the auditor onside" clauses. If the auditor does not find anything horrendous in the systems, they are likely to accapt half-assed internal auditing. On the other hand, if they are finding 2/3 non-conformances per section, they will go to town on you for not reviewing your systems in the correct manner no matter how many folders of rubbish you produce on audit day. But I do agree with your point, and as the old Swedish saying goes, it is an awful lot of trouble for such a small amount of wool said the woman as she shaved the pig.
I don't have an answer for your issue but can totally sympathize. Same issues here...pulling teeth is the best way to describe what I experience and I have to believe that many companies face the same thing. Internal auditing seems like a full time job and small to medium sized companies don't have the resources or manpower to get them done properly. The more we dig into BRC and go after certification in December ( after 18 months of preparation), I continue to wonder, "how do companies do this?" and in the big picture is all this attention to minutia really improve food safety? I hardly ever see posts like this on this forum and I can't believe I am the only one who thinks like this. I know our companies food safety was better in tune when my attention was on less items, that I could maintain, rather than on so many details and mountains of paperwork. Ok, there's my rant.
Exactly. My company has had BRC certification (grade A) for a year and a half and I have to admit, there is no change to the product we are putting out, just a whole lot of paperwork to back it up. So far, the only real benefit is that we can still sell to a couple of our large customers who insist we have the certification.